I posted in [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?93751-Testing-amp-Playing-with-Chinese-Steadicam-at-Finalfootage-com-(NYC-REDuser-s-Meeting)"]two[/URL] [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?91009-Anyone-have-any-experience-with-the-Chinese-knock-off-Steadicams-Like-this-one"]threads[/URL] about the idea to make a group purchase of this [URL="http://www.camera-video-broadcast.com/products/2-15kg-Load-Camera-Video-Steadycam-Stabilizer-Steadycam-Carbon-Fiber_141.html"]Chinese steadycam system[/URL].
Update #1: The manufacturer sent me an email that as long as we purchase 10 or more units, it's USD1495/pcs including shipment to every buyer (excluding Africa and Southern America, but that's probably negotiable).
Update #2: I contacted ActionProducts, Floatcam, Betz-Tools, Movcam and EEmov (and now also Basson and Liang) and asked for quotes for a Zephyr like system with a back-mounted vest.
Update #3: ActionProducts will reveal the Raptor soon, but it's out of our price range. Floatcam and eemov will send me an group buy offer early next week. Betz-Tools might consider an offer (but it will be probably also way out of our price range).
Update #4: Joey from camera-video-broadcast.com (CAME) wrote me:
[I]"The packages including:
1 x Metal Vest
1 x Carbon Fiber Stablizer
1 x Support Dual Arm
1 x Base for battery Mount
1 x Base for Monitor
16 X 100g ballance weight
1 x Adjustable plate for handheld stabilizer
1 x portable bag
We are manufacture who producing steadicam, but we do not produce stands and monitor, sorry we can not supply stand and monitor to you.
One more thing, After buyers confirm buy it and payment, we will refund some money to you. we can not telling you how much refund will be. but we can promise it will be lower than 1495USD/set."[/I]
Since those aren't the information we are looking for, I'll write him again, asking about photos and a test unit.
Update #5: MOVcam contacted me. They are considering an offer for the [URL="http://www.movcam.com/en/avant-s-overview/camera-stabilizers/avant-s.html"]Avant Series S[/URL] for the group buy. But there won't be any news until February 18th, since the Chinese New Year starts tomorrow.
Update #6: Kwan should have received his CAME system (exactly the system we're interested in). Lets put together a group meeting in late February / early March to review the CAME system, the eeMOV Hawk Ultra Pro, the MOVcam Avant S and the Floatcam FC12.
Update #7: eemov sent me their offer. The floatcam offer should arrive today or tomorrow. eemov asked to not openly discuss the price, so I'll send a pm to everyone on the list of interested buyers with the offers. If you haven't received a pm until Friday night, please contact me. The MOVcam offer should arrive after the 18th, since it's still Chinese New Year holiday.
Update #8: Contacted Liang directly for an offer. Also asked [URL="http://www.bassonsteady.com.ar/shop/categorias.asp?id=1"]Basson[/URL] for an offer for this group buy.
Update #9: PM sent to everyone on the list.
Update #10: Floatcam's offer:
Regular prizes (excl. VAT):
FC12 4100,-€
FC14 7100,-€
Back Mounted West Upgrade 350,-€
Shipping 30-80€ depending on system and country
Our offer for the red forum:
FC12 when ordering:
2-4 pieces discount 7%
5-10 pieces discount 9%
10-20 pieces discount 11%
20-30 pieces discount 14%
35 or more pieces discount TBA
FC14 when ordering:
2-4 pieces discount 9%
5-10 pieces discount 13%
10-20 pieces discount 17%
20-35 pieces discount 20%
35 or more pieces discount TBA
Update #11: Basson's offer:
List prices:
Bumblebee pro 6 USD 5840.-
Blackbee pro 6 USD 6.220.-
Discount for 10+ units: 10% + free shipping + a "special invoice"
Update #12: Kwan organizes a [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?94922-CAME-LA-NG-2-(Group-buy-test)-NYC&p=1153772&viewfull=1#post1153772"]meeting[/URL] to test the CAME / Laing system.
Update #13: Joey from CAME wrote me: "We can add add a LEMO power and an HD-SDI connector to the sled." Also I contacted Laing, the original producer of the CAME steadicam. They are preparing an offer and will send it to us early next week. Laing also could add LEMO and HD-SDI connectors.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #14: Joey from CAME wrote me the lowest possible price for him (incl. LEMO and HD-SDI), but asked not to publish it openly (same as eemov). I'll send everyone a pm tomorrow.[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #15: Liang are doing a REDuser version of the M02 (same as CAME), incl. HD-SDI & LEMO, double battery plate similar to MOVcam and a monitor mount on 15mm rods. Photos are coming soon. Price ~1500USD. I told them we have the following requirements:
"[I]I think it would be best if there is a 4pin LEMO and an HD-SDI socket at the top as well as on the bottom of the sled . The battery plate could either go straight into the pole, and then be split up to the lower and the upper connector, or has a straight out cable to 4pin LEMO which would be connected to an additional 4pin LEMO connector at the bottom of the sled. This would make it easier to repair something, for example if a cable breaks."[/I][/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #16: Liang just send me this message. I think we can make this group buy something really special:
[QUOTE]We are very interested in customizing a RED version for you. Please send us the list of your wishes, the datasheets and photos. We will try to design and produce a sample first.[/QUOTE]
So post your ideas, if possible with drawings or photos, so that there are no misunderstandings. I made an [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?95153-Custom-Steadicam-for-REDusers-lt-1800USD-Post-your-ideas&p=1155876&viewfull=1#post1155876"]extra thread[/URL] for it. Or send them right to me via pm or mail, if you don't want to post them openly.[/COLOR]
Update #17: Contacted also Glidecam for an offer. They are considering it. -> They declined.
Update #18: Joey from CAME wrote me. He offered us a new price which I'll send you early next week via pm plus a discount for every future purchase. I just want to wait with the pm for the other offers by MOVcam and Glidecam, since sending a pm to everyone is quite time consuming.
[QUOTE]what is more , in future all your buyers can get our 12 percent discount if they shop at our company website: [url]www.camera-video-broadcast.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Update #19: I made a [URL="http://davidkellermann.blogspot.de/"]blog[/URL] where I'll post all the info on the group buy. Also I contacted L'aigle Paris and PROline. I made a [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?95153-Custom-Steadicam-for-REDusers-lt-1800USD-Post-your-ideas&p=1155877&viewfull=1#post1155877"]list of modifications[/URL] people want to see in the system. Have a look if you want to add something.
This list is just for a more detailed quote and NOT a final list if buyers!
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Update #1: The manufacturer sent me an email that as long as we purchase 10 or more units, it's USD1495/pcs including shipment to every buyer (excluding Africa and Southern America, but that's probably negotiable).
Update #2: I contacted ActionProducts, Floatcam, Betz-Tools, Movcam and EEmov (and now also Basson and Liang) and asked for quotes for a Zephyr like system with a back-mounted vest.
Update #3: ActionProducts will reveal the Raptor soon, but it's out of our price range. Floatcam and eemov will send me an group buy offer early next week. Betz-Tools might consider an offer (but it will be probably also way out of our price range).
Update #4: Joey from camera-video-broadcast.com (CAME) wrote me:
[I]"The packages including:
1 x Metal Vest
1 x Carbon Fiber Stablizer
1 x Support Dual Arm
1 x Base for battery Mount
1 x Base for Monitor
16 X 100g ballance weight
1 x Adjustable plate for handheld stabilizer
1 x portable bag
We are manufacture who producing steadicam, but we do not produce stands and monitor, sorry we can not supply stand and monitor to you.
One more thing, After buyers confirm buy it and payment, we will refund some money to you. we can not telling you how much refund will be. but we can promise it will be lower than 1495USD/set."[/I]
Since those aren't the information we are looking for, I'll write him again, asking about photos and a test unit.
Update #5: MOVcam contacted me. They are considering an offer for the [URL="http://www.movcam.com/en/avant-s-overview/camera-stabilizers/avant-s.html"]Avant Series S[/URL] for the group buy. But there won't be any news until February 18th, since the Chinese New Year starts tomorrow.
Update #6: Kwan should have received his CAME system (exactly the system we're interested in). Lets put together a group meeting in late February / early March to review the CAME system, the eeMOV Hawk Ultra Pro, the MOVcam Avant S and the Floatcam FC12.
Update #7: eemov sent me their offer. The floatcam offer should arrive today or tomorrow. eemov asked to not openly discuss the price, so I'll send a pm to everyone on the list of interested buyers with the offers. If you haven't received a pm until Friday night, please contact me. The MOVcam offer should arrive after the 18th, since it's still Chinese New Year holiday.
Update #8: Contacted Liang directly for an offer. Also asked [URL="http://www.bassonsteady.com.ar/shop/categorias.asp?id=1"]Basson[/URL] for an offer for this group buy.
Update #9: PM sent to everyone on the list.
Update #10: Floatcam's offer:
Regular prizes (excl. VAT):
FC12 4100,-€
FC14 7100,-€
Back Mounted West Upgrade 350,-€
Shipping 30-80€ depending on system and country
Our offer for the red forum:
FC12 when ordering:
2-4 pieces discount 7%
5-10 pieces discount 9%
10-20 pieces discount 11%
20-30 pieces discount 14%
35 or more pieces discount TBA
FC14 when ordering:
2-4 pieces discount 9%
5-10 pieces discount 13%
10-20 pieces discount 17%
20-35 pieces discount 20%
35 or more pieces discount TBA
Update #11: Basson's offer:
List prices:
Bumblebee pro 6 USD 5840.-
Blackbee pro 6 USD 6.220.-
Discount for 10+ units: 10% + free shipping + a "special invoice"
Update #12: Kwan organizes a [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?94922-CAME-LA-NG-2-(Group-buy-test)-NYC&p=1153772&viewfull=1#post1153772"]meeting[/URL] to test the CAME / Laing system.
Update #13: Joey from CAME wrote me: "We can add add a LEMO power and an HD-SDI connector to the sled." Also I contacted Laing, the original producer of the CAME steadicam. They are preparing an offer and will send it to us early next week. Laing also could add LEMO and HD-SDI connectors.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #14: Joey from CAME wrote me the lowest possible price for him (incl. LEMO and HD-SDI), but asked not to publish it openly (same as eemov). I'll send everyone a pm tomorrow.[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #15: Liang are doing a REDuser version of the M02 (same as CAME), incl. HD-SDI & LEMO, double battery plate similar to MOVcam and a monitor mount on 15mm rods. Photos are coming soon. Price ~1500USD. I told them we have the following requirements:
"[I]I think it would be best if there is a 4pin LEMO and an HD-SDI socket at the top as well as on the bottom of the sled . The battery plate could either go straight into the pole, and then be split up to the lower and the upper connector, or has a straight out cable to 4pin LEMO which would be connected to an additional 4pin LEMO connector at the bottom of the sled. This would make it easier to repair something, for example if a cable breaks."[/I][/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Update #16: Liang just send me this message. I think we can make this group buy something really special:
[QUOTE]We are very interested in customizing a RED version for you. Please send us the list of your wishes, the datasheets and photos. We will try to design and produce a sample first.[/QUOTE]
So post your ideas, if possible with drawings or photos, so that there are no misunderstandings. I made an [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?95153-Custom-Steadicam-for-REDusers-lt-1800USD-Post-your-ideas&p=1155876&viewfull=1#post1155876"]extra thread[/URL] for it. Or send them right to me via pm or mail, if you don't want to post them openly.[/COLOR]
Update #17: Contacted also Glidecam for an offer. They are considering it. -> They declined.
Update #18: Joey from CAME wrote me. He offered us a new price which I'll send you early next week via pm plus a discount for every future purchase. I just want to wait with the pm for the other offers by MOVcam and Glidecam, since sending a pm to everyone is quite time consuming.
[QUOTE]what is more , in future all your buyers can get our 12 percent discount if they shop at our company website: [url]www.camera-video-broadcast.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Update #19: I made a [URL="http://davidkellermann.blogspot.de/"]blog[/URL] where I'll post all the info on the group buy. Also I contacted L'aigle Paris and PROline. I made a [URL="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?95153-Custom-Steadicam-for-REDusers-lt-1800USD-Post-your-ideas&p=1155877&viewfull=1#post1155877"]list of modifications[/URL] people want to see in the system. Have a look if you want to add something.
This list is just for a more detailed quote and NOT a final list if buyers!
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